Y12 August Week Two Turf

[Cavallo]

_{Oak Leaf Stakes* - 7F - 2yo G5+
Win Innocent Passion
Place Mastermind
Show Arlequinn
4th Blazing Kiss}

[Deleted]

Pandemonium Stakes
Win Seeking Stardom
Place Ode To Glory
Show Apollo Bear
4th Odd Number Out

[Cavallo]

Oh my gosh! Thank you Archie! Ice really needed this win! Just waiting for you Snow! *crosses fingers* :P

[Snowflake]

Harbinger Stakes
WIN Mizadori
PLACE GS Royal Crown
SHOW Nightshade
4th Calle Ocho

GS Royal Crown - Nice colt with nice bloodlines. I had a horse by Authers Excaliber. Not sure what happened to her. I think her name was Silver Excaliber.. He was close to the win but Mizadori's experience and maturity got her the win.

Nightshade - Has been raced ALOT. I feel that she must be quite tired at this point, as she's only two years old and has raced fifteen times in less than eight months. She just didn't have the strength left to close on the top two.

Mizadori - Maturity and experience got her the win here today, congrats

Calle Ocho - Not much to comment on, he simply doesn't stand out to me in this field.

[Cavallo]

I'm not pleased. She's been on two week rotations, except for July and only has two more races under her belt than some G3 juveniles.. I don't agree

[Snowflake]

So, what, you're accusing me of being biased or something? Whatever Cav, I just won't judge your horses in future. You can't win them all.

[Cavallo]

I'm not going to argue.I'm saying this. This is SIM. Not real life.there is no cap and I have raced very selectely. I have never said anything about you're judging before And am extremely offended that you would say that.that is uncalled for.I know a horse can't win every time, but this I didn't understand. I had her well prepped. She had the rest and your reason for placing her So is lacking.

[S u N f r O s T ~]

Nov 24, 2012 22:35:13 GMT -5 Snowflake said:

So, what, you're accusing me of being biased or something? Whatever Cav, I just won't judge your horses in future. You can't win them all.

She's not accusing you of being biased at all. Take a step back here Sarah - she's just saying that she doesn't agree with your results. You defended your position by calling her biased - not the best way to deal with this calmly. It is offending to have your judging questioned, but all you need to do is defend your position in a calm manner and then things get resolved ;)

In this case, I will take Cav's side. In my opinion, Nightshade has been out on the tracks a lot, but she hasn't been drastically overraced compared to other juveniles. Anna and Ven, for example, each have fourteen starts this year, but they have been well rested and certainly not overraced. If a horse has raced three + times in a row numerous times over the season, then yes, overraced. To decide cases of overracing we shouldn't look at the number of races anymore. We should look at the weeks those races took place and compare.

[Snowflake]

Actually Frosty, she deleted her other post here. It said 'She has more workouts and experience. I can't accept this'. That, coupled with the post that wasn't deleted, sounded an awful lot like I was being accused of something. Love how everyone always makes me out to be the bad guy.

[Cavallo]

I did say that. I deleted it because it was worded rudely and I wanted to more clearly articulate myself. I said that because I found your reason for placing Nightshade lowly insufficient. What I couldn't accept was your treatment of me. I never accused you of anything. What I did call into question was your reasoning behind a placement I felt wasn't dealt out justly because you an I obviously have a different definition of the word 'over raced' and one we will define now for the record books.

There is no cap. Over raced concerning juveniles is three or more racing weeks taking place back to back. Ages three and up are more versatile.

Problem solved. Thank you for helping bring about this resolution.
No one made you out to be anything. Bad or good or whatever adjective you want to insert. I hope in the future we won't have this problem and we're all able to carry on on friendly civil terms. I'm not including this in Nightshade's record as we just defined what 'over raced' is and if you felt I was attacking you or accusing you I am sorry. That wasn't my intention, but I was frustrated because I work very hard with my stock...especially Nightshade and your logic accused me of not taking proper care of my stock and then your not so civil reply...didn't help.

I have no issues with you and hope this matter can now rest.